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Anti Slip Road Plates

Postby vesparado » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:03 am

This was brought up again in the NYSC forum. So I simply searched anti-skid road plates and came across many manufacturers that indicate that their products meet state and municipal DOT coefficients of friction standards. I have not seen an anti-skid road plate locally in a long time. Does anyone know if we have such standards and is we do, they are obviously not being met. We all know the dangers that these road plates present us with when wet.
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Re: Anti Slip Road Plates

Postby vesparado » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:23 am

Did my own research. Yes NYC DOT has anti-skid requirements for road plates and most on our roads do not meet the standards. I've contacted the Commissioner of DOT.
http://www.transalt.org/files/newsroom/magazine/041Winter/04steelplates.html
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Re: Anti Slip Road Plates

Postby jerlbaum » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:34 am

vesparado wrote:Did my own research. Yes NYC DOT has anti-skid requirements for road plates and most on our roads do not meet the standards. I've contacted the Commissioner of DOT.
http://www.transalt.org/files/newsroom/magazine/041Winter/04steelplates.html



Thanks!!

We need to accumulate this and other specific ideas for general road improvements on one page. That way, when we get asked what changed we would like, we have them all in one place.

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Re: Anti Slip Road Plates

Postby vesparado » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:26 am

jerlbaum wrote:
vesparado wrote:Did my own research. Yes NYC DOT has anti-skid requirements for road plates and most on our roads do not meet the standards. I've contacted the Commissioner of DOT.
http://www.transalt.org/files/newsroom/magazine/041Winter/04steelplates.html



Thanks!!

We need to accumulate this and other specific ideas for general road improvements on one page. That way, when we get asked what changed we would like, we have them all in one place.

Jesse


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Re: Anit Slip Road Plates

Postby Jillian » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:34 pm

Officers talked about this last night and we think we can get some traction on it.

1. Find out who is in charge of enforcing these steel plates.

2. Flood 311 (and the 311 app) with pics of non-compliant plates. If someone does have a wreck on one, at least the liability chain will be established.
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Re: Anit Slip Road Plates

Postby Jillian » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:12 pm

I just spoke with a contact I have at DOT about these road plates.

When DOT is made aware (via 311) of non-compliant road plates, they have 10 days to inspect it and contact the owner. They will fine the construction company and order them to make it compliant within 30 days. Yep, it's slow, bureaucratic bullshit DOT same-old. But it will... eventually... work.

I was advised not to flood 311 with 500 complaints. They do not have the manpower to inspect them all, and it just won't happen. She suggested doing 5 or so per day.

Meanwhile, she suggested that I go to my community board and ask for help in making the law mean something. This could be another place to start.

My takeaway from all this is, in 2001, DOT required non-slip road plates http://www.transalt.org/files/newsroom/ ... Summer.pdf, p8 "Skid Free"
Contractors have been ignoring this for 10+ years because no one cares. If they get fined on a regular basis, eventually they'll send out the schmuck with the truck-bed-liner paint and make the damned things compliant. In other words, the 311 method might work IF we're persistent.

The NYC311 app for iPhone (not android) has a super-simple way to report these. I'm waiting for Jesse or someone to take screen shots of the process so we can put it out in our newsletter. And maybe the next step is to get pairs of riders to systematically scour Manhattan (to start) for bad plates. Start at 1st and 1st, ride up on a Sunday morning, note down all the plates, hit a diner. 1drink Thoughts?
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Re: Anit Slip Road Plates

Postby Jillian » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:48 pm

By the way this is the current standard for roads
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As of 4/13/12. The plating / decking rule is on p73 of the PDF, numbered page 69 in the doc. DOT Highway Rules Section 2-11, e 10 vi.
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Re: Anit Slip Road Plates

Postby Jillian » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:25 pm

Information about complaining about Steel Plates went out in the August newsletter and online at http://www.nymstf.org/SteelPlates.htm

I called 3 into 311 and they all show that the contractor has been fined:

The Department of Transportation inspected the condition and issued a summons to the responsible party. A re-inspection will be done within 10 days. If the condition still exists, a second summons will be issued. In some cases, the Department of Transportation will make the repairs and charge the responsible party for the costs.


I'll keep an eye and see if any actual improvement is made.
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Re: Anit Slip Road Plates

Postby Jillian » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:25 pm

I wrote the following to a person at DOT today:

Per DOT's advice I called 311 on four steel road plates in Manhattan that do not have the required anti-skid coating. Three now say they they've been fined & will be reinspected. A fourth, Service Request # C1-1-775200241, I reported on Friday Aug. 17 at 6:30pm. Four and a half hours later (at 11pm) it was closed, citing "the condition was inspected and it was in compliance with Department of Transportation standards, not hazardous, or a valid permit exists." Of course, the plate is not in compliance. How is there no appeals process for this? It seems a total waste of time to call back in and re-report the same complaint.

By the way, a 2004 Transportation Alternatives study showed that 66% of the plates were not compliant. This is a huge issue for cyclists, motorcyclists, and pedestrians, so I'm sure you can appreciate my zeal in getting a proper response through 311. Thanks again for your help.
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Re: Anit Slip Road Plates

Postby Jillian » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:05 am

Is anyone else having trouble getting the DOT to get a proper inspection on these plates? I reported another 5 yesterday - and they all got kicked back as "in compliance." I think the inspector assumes that the complaint is that they're shifted and making noise, even though in the text of the complaint I specifically state "plate missing anti-skid surface."

If this is a systemic problem - please reply to this thread. Thanks!
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